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Revolutionising Brand Collaborations: Jamie Pitt and Ryan Elliott on Building Partnar

Steve talks with the co-founders of Partnar, Jamie Pitt and Ryan Elliott, about how they’re reshaping brand collaborations.

by hao-nguyen on October 15, 2023

About the guests

Ryan Elliott

Co-Founder at Partnar

Ryan Elliott is a software entrepreneur from a small country town who built a gym marketplace for five years before taking an equity role at a Gold Coast startup. His experience growing businesses entirely through partnerships led him to co-found Partnar, a brand collaboration platform that matches direct-to-consumer brands with complementary partners.

Jamie Pitt

Co-Founder at Partnar

Jamie Pitt is a Wollongong-born e-commerce entrepreneur who started, founded, and sold multiple e-commerce brands in the fitness space. He joined Partnar after a stint as CMO at another startup, where the daily frustration of chasing brand partnerships manually became the founding insight for the platform.

Episode overview

Ryan Elliott and Jamie Pitt, co-founders of Partnar, join Steve Grace in Sydney to explain how a shared frustration with brand partnerships brought two old gym colleagues back together after 13 years. The conversation covers how they pre-sold a non-existent product, navigated the offshore developer minefield, raised their first round within two months of launch, and are building toward a first-party data platform at a moment when iOS privacy changes have shattered traditional ad tracking.

Two parallel problems that pointed to the same solution

Ryan and Jamie met working at Fanny’s Fitness (now Goodlife) about 13 years before founding Partnar. Ryan went into software and built a gym marketplace where partnerships were central to growth. Jamie went into e-commerce and was constantly doing brand-to-brand and influencer collaborations to win customers. When iOS App Tracking Transparency hit, both found traditional paid acquisition unreliable at the same time. Jamie, working as a CMO, called Ryan and described the manual nightmare of chasing partnerships: cold emails, follow-ups, ghosting, no standard commercial framework. Ryan’s response was simple.

“He called me one day and said, ‘Man, I’m reaching out to all these brands, some get back to me, some stuff me around, eventually get a partnership together, and surely there’s one place where I can just say here’s who I am, here’s who I want to partner with.’ I was like, no, I don’t think there is mate. Let’s have a look.”

Ryan Elliott 7:00

Validating before building: the $5,000 stripe invoice test

Rather than start building, Ryan and Jamie put up a one-page landing page, a six-page deck, and some Figma mockups. They pitched to brands via LinkedIn and cold outreach. When every brand said they would sign up once it was built, the pair sent Stripe invoices for $5,000 each (12-month prepay with a discount) before a single line of code existed. Two brands paid. That was enough to start building.

“We had nothing. We don’t have a platform, we don’t have a developer. The brands who paid that know this now.”

Jamie Pitt 11:00

From launch to term sheet in two months

Partnar launched on 6 July 2022 and signed a term sheet on 6 September 2022 with Scalar Ventures in Melbourne. The round came after about 30 investor presentations, with three or four reaching the serious stage. Ryan describes the raise as a mix of preparation, timing, and luck. The Scalar team gave Partnar the capital to accelerate growth it would not have reached on its own.

The Shopify integration and first-party data vision

The longer-term product vision is a first-party data marketplace. The Shopify integration allows merchants to connect their customer lists, average order values, and purchase frequency. Partnar anonymises and maps this data so two brands can see the percentage of customer overlap before agreeing to collaborate. At scale, the platform could show any brand in real time where its customers are showing up across thousands of other direct-to-consumer stores, creating insight that no ad platform currently provides.

“Imagine we’ve got 5,000 direct-to-consumer brands integrating their data into the platform. Then you log in and in real time you can see, geez, 10% of my customers are showing interest in travel and leisure, 5% are starting to show up in wellness and beauty. This is real-time data that brands can’t get from anywhere else.”

Ryan Elliott 26:00

Key takeaways

Pre-sell before you build. Ryan and Jamie sent Stripe invoices for $5,000 to brands before the platform existed. Two paid. Real money is the only validation that counts, and it funds the first phase of development.
iOS privacy changes created a new category. The loss of app tracking transparency forced e-commerce brands to find cheaper, more reliable customer acquisition channels. Partnar’s brand collaboration model fills that gap directly.
Marketplace strategy requires vertical focus. Going broad brought brands on board but diluted match quality. Narrowing to direct-to-consumer and SaaS improved the experience for everyone. Finding the right vertical before scaling is critical for any marketplace.
Complementary co-founder skills matter more than shared ones. Ryan runs sales and investor communications; Jamie handles customer service and marketing. They argue frequently but always resolve to an outcome. The chalk-and-cheese dynamic is intentional and productive.
Comfort with uncertainty is a learnable skill. Both founders cite being comfortable with being uncomfortable as the most transferable lesson from their previous businesses. First-time founders struggle with ambiguity; experienced ones lean into it.
Raise relationships before raising capital. Ryan and Jamie started building investor relationships months before they needed money, with no ask attached. By the time they were ready for a term sheet, the groundwork was done.
First-party data is the next defensible moat. As third-party cookies disappear and tracking degrades, the brands that own aggregated purchase-behaviour data across categories will have a significant competitive advantage in targeting and personalisation.

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Frequently asked questions

What problem does Partnar solve for direct-to-consumer brands?

Partnar solves the manual friction of brand-to-brand partnership sourcing. Before Partnar, a brand wanting to co-promote with a complementary partner had to find candidates through LinkedIn or referrals, manage endless email threads, and negotiate commercial terms from scratch every time. Partnar centralises this process, matching brands by shared customer profiles and providing a platform to agree, activate, and measure collaborations in one place.

How did Partnar validate the idea before building the product?

The founders created a one-page landing page, a six-page pitch deck, and Figma mockups, then pitched directly to brands via LinkedIn and cold outreach. When brands said they would join once the product was built, Ryan and Jamie sent Stripe invoices for $5,000 (12-month prepay) before any code was written. Two brands paid, providing both validation and seed funding.

How does the Shopify integration work on Partnar?

The Shopify integration allows merchants to connect their store data including customer lists, subscriber lists, average order value, and purchase frequency. Partnar anonymises this first-party data and maps it against other brands on the platform. Two potential partners can then see the percentage overlap in their customer bases before committing to a collaboration, making the partnership decision data-driven rather than instinct-based.

Who invested in Partnar and how quickly did the raise happen?

Partnar raised its first round from Scalar Ventures in Melbourne, signing a term sheet on 6 September 2022, just two months after the platform launched on 6 July 2022. The raise came after approximately 30 investor presentations. Ryan credits the Scalar team’s experience and network for accelerating Partnar’s growth beyond what the founders could have achieved independently.

What types of brands are best suited to Partnar?

Partnar is most effective for direct-to-consumer e-commerce brands and SaaS businesses that share a similar customer profile. The ideal partner pairing involves brands targeting the same demographic, lifestyle category, or values cluster, for example a wellness brand and a fitness apparel brand both serving health-conscious 25 to 40-year-old women. The platform also supports B2B SaaS partnerships, though the DTC vertical makes up roughly 75 percent of activity.

Topics discussed

Brand partnershipsE-commerceDirect-to-consumeriOS privacy changesFirst-party dataMarketplace platformsShopify integrationStartup fundraisingCo-founder dynamicsCustomer acquisitionGold Coast startups

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0:00 Introduction

Good afternoon, welcome to Give It A Nudge. Today we have Ryan and Jamie down from the Gold Coast to talk about their business Partnar. Ryan, why don’t you start by explaining who you are and what the business is. Jamie, I’ll come to you after. Partnar is a brand collaboration platform. We match brands together that share a similar customer. If you’re a brand that sells to 18 to 35-year-old females that care about sustainability and wellness, we match you up so you can share customer information, cross-promote products and services, and ultimately win more customers.

4:00 Jamie’s background in e-commerce

I’m originally from Wollongong and moved to the Gold Coast in my early twenties. I played soccer, then ended up doing e-commerce. I’ve started, founded, and sold multiple e-com businesses. I was in the fitness industry, that’s how I met Ryan. We worked together, went our separate ways, he went into software and I went into e-com. We started experiencing the same problem at the same time and came back together for Partnar.

7:00 The problem: iOS tracking and brand partnership friction

With my gym marketplace, the bread and butter was getting gyms on the platform, and I used partnerships to do that. Jamie was always doing brand-to-brand and influencer collaborations. Then iOS app tracking transparency became a real pain point for all marketers. I was at a startup on the Gold Coast growing it through partnerships. Jamie was CMO doing partnerships, and he called me saying there had to be one place where he could say here’s who I am, here’s who I want to partner with, and have people come to him. I checked and that place didn’t exist. So we built it.

10:00 Pre-selling before building

We built a one-page landing page, bought the URL, built a six-page deck, put some designs in Figma, and started pitching to brands. We were still in our day jobs. Every brand was saying yes, when it’s built we’d love to be part of it. They were fine with $200 or $400 per month but that didn’t validate anything. So we created a Stripe account, sent invoices saying pay for 12 months in full and get a discount at $5,000. Two brands paid. We had nothing built. No platform, no developer. Those brands know this now. But that was our validation.

13:00 Finding a developer and building the MVP

We launched on the 6th of July 2022. There were no local developers available; if they were, they wanted $190K a year. We sourced one overseas and hit the gold mine. We’d been through one bad experience with offshore first. But we wanted to make the platform simple and build it in stages: what’s the MVP we can get out there that makes positive results for clients straight away, then make it better every week.

16:00 From launch to term sheet

We launched July 6, signed a term sheet September 6, two months later. We did about 30 presentations. We had three or four serious investors and ended up going with Scalar Ventures in Melbourne. Couldn’t be happier with that choice. We weren’t going in demanding cash, we were just building relationships and saying here’s what we’re doing for future reference. The timing was perfect, couldn’t have been better.

19:00 Narrowing the marketplace and the DTC vertical

We went really wide at first, any business that wanted partnerships. The challenge with that is you miss the opportunity to build verticals, and brands don’t get the experience they want because there aren’t enough matches. So we narrowed to online retail direct-to-consumer brands and SaaS. About 75% of our brands are DTC now. We help them identify their assets, their email list, social following, weekly orders, then understand their objective, and map the process to get there.

25:00 Shopify integration, first-party data, and the long-term vision

We built an integration with Shopify that lets merchants connect their customer list, subscriber list, average order value, and frequency. We anonymise that data and map it with other potential partners so you can see if, say, 10% of our customers overlap with 10% of theirs. That’s the validation for a partnership. Long term, imagine 5,000 DTC brands integrating their data. You log in and in real time see that 10% of your customers are showing interest in travel and leisure, 5% in wellness and beauty. Data that brands can’t get from anywhere else. The brands always own their own data, we don’t.

About the host

Steve Grace is the founder and CEO of The Nudge Group, a technology-focused recruitment and advisory business. He has built and scaled companies across Australia and the US, and hosts Give It A Nudge to spotlight founders and operators building something meaningful.

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