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Making Waves in Marketing: Stephanie King’s Return Appearance to Discuss Ask Marketing’s Progress

Stephanie King, Co-Founder of Ask Marketing, shares her success story on Give It A Nudge for the third time, showcasing their smart and steady growth in the marketing industry.

by hao-nguyen on February 1, 2023

About the guest

Stephanie King

Co-Founder at Ask Marketing

Stephanie King is the co-founder of Ask Marketing alongside her sister Ali King. Steph leads client relationships and service delivery, overseeing the strategy and managed marketing teams that help B2B service businesses build demand, establish thought leadership, and own their industries. She has appeared on Give It A Nudge three times, making her the show’s most frequent returning guest.

Episode overview

Stephanie King returns to Give It A Nudge for her third appearance, this time to share what has changed at Ask Marketing over the past year. What started as a digital strategy consultancy has evolved into a two-armed business combining strategy with a fully managed marketing execution service. Steph walks through how Ask made that transition, what the team looks like now, and what the plan is for 2023.

Adding a recurring revenue arm

The core push for Ask Marketing in 2022 was building a managed marketing service on top of the existing strategy offering. Steph explains the market conditions that made it obvious: marketing salaries jumped 30 percent in one year, marketing and sales roles became the hardest to fill and retain, and strategy clients kept coming back asking if Ask could handle execution as well. The answer was to build an offshore-supported team of senior marketers who could act as an embedded marketing function for clients on an ongoing basis.

“We weren’t staffed to support it. But they ended up coming back saying we actually want you ongoing, so we built the model to make that happen.”

Stephanie King 4:00

Growing smartly, not just fast

Ask grew from four people to seven in the space of months after launching the managed service. Steph is candid about the temptation to scale quickly but explains the approach is deliberate: take feedback from every current client, improve the service continuously, and only grow when the quality can be maintained. The vision for 2023 is not aggressive expansion but refinement of what already works.

“The focus is continuing to grow. It’s growing steadily and it’s growing smartly, because we always want to be a premium service provider.”

Stephanie King 11:00

Running a business with your sister

One of the standout threads in this episode is the co-founder dynamic between Stephanie and her sister Ali. Their roles are cleanly divided: Ali handles sales and business development, Steph manages client relationships and delivery. Because they’re sisters, the conversations are more honest than most co-founder relationships, and decisions always come back to whether they’re both happy as people, not just whether the metrics are moving.

“Day to day, the conversations we have about huge business decisions always come back to: are we happy as human beings, are we happy with our relationship, are we happy with where the business is going?”

Stephanie King 14:00

Key takeaways

Recurring revenue requires a different operating model. Adding a managed service arm to a strategy business isn’t just a pricing change. It requires new hires, new systems, and a clear separation of who manages what within the founding team.
Validate the offer with existing clients first. Ask Marketing tested the managed service concept with current strategy clients before launching publicly. The signal from existing relationships de-risked the new model before any investment was made in building it.
Marketing hiring costs made the managed service inevitable. With marketing salaries rising 30 percent in a single year and roles being the hardest to fill, the economics of hiring in-house marketers pushed clients toward outsourced managed services.
Founder roles must evolve as the business grows. Steph moved from working directly on strategies to managing a team of marketers. She put her hand up early that she wanted to lead people, which made the transition deliberate rather than accidental.
Sibling co-founders have a unique honesty advantage. Because sisters, Ali and Steph have zero overlap in roles and complete candour in their conversations. The team sees that alignment and it flows through to how clients are served.
Team culture is an early retention strategy. Ask introduced “happiness sessions” with each team member to talk about life goals, professional development, and how supported they feel. In a market where people change jobs constantly, this has been central to keeping good people.

Mentioned in this episode

Frequently asked questions

What does Ask Marketing do?

Ask Marketing helps B2B and service-based businesses build demand, establish thought leadership, and own their industry. They offer two services: a decisive digital marketing strategy engagement, and a fully managed marketing service that handles ongoing execution using a hybrid local and global team.

How did Ask Marketing build a recurring revenue model?

Ask Marketing identified that existing strategy clients kept requesting ongoing support after the strategy project ended. In mid-2022 they launched a managed marketing service, hiring senior marketers in Australia and the Philippines to act as an embedded marketing function for clients on a recurring basis.

How do Stephanie and Ali King divide responsibilities at Ask Marketing?

The split is clean and intentional. Ali King leads sales and business development, focused on growth. Stephanie leads client relationships and delivery, managing the strategy and managed marketing teams. There is no overlap, which reduces confusion for staff and clients alike.

What are happiness sessions and why does Ask Marketing run them?

Happiness sessions are regular one-on-one conversations between Stephanie and each team member that go beyond task management to cover life goals, professional ambitions, and how supported the person feels. The goal is to create psychological safety and genuine investment in each person’s growth, not just their output.

Why is growing a service business to recurring revenue hard?

Project-based service businesses derive revenue from one-off engagements, which makes cash flow unpredictable and caps team size. Switching to a recurring model requires new systems, new hiring, and a different approach to selling, since clients need to commit to ongoing spend rather than a defined project scope.

Topics discussed

B2B marketing managed marketing service recurring revenue agency growth digital marketing strategy co-founders family business team culture marketing hiring startup marketing service business model

Full transcript

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0:00 Introduction

Welcome to the Give It A Nudge podcast. Today is a very special episode for a couple of reasons. One, she’s a great friend. Two, she helped us as a business with our strategy. And three, she is now the only person to have ever been on Give It A Nudge three times. I’d like to welcome Stephanie King. Today you’re here for a very special reason. For the very first time we are becoming your provider and you are becoming our client. We wanted to talk about your company and the update, because your business has completely changed, into a really well-run recurring revenue model.

3:00 What Ask Marketing does

I’m Stephanie King, one of the co-founders of Ask Marketing. Ask Marketing provides B2B and service-based businesses primarily to do three things: build demand, establish thought leadership, and own the industry. We do that through two ways now. The first is developing a decisive digital marketing strategy. Now we’ve been able to layer on a recurring revenue model, a managed marketing service, which is an executional arm to our business.

6:00 Why they added managed services

Multiple things. Scalability of a project-based business is challenging. We were working with epic clients and we’d essentially get to the end of our strategy project and almost say goodbye. They’d come back saying we actually want you ongoing, but we weren’t staffed to support that. We also saw marketing salaries increase rapidly, up 30 percent in one year. Marketing and sales roles are the hardest to find and the hardest to retain. So we built a managed marketing service: senior local marketers in Australia paired with senior marketers in the Philippines, acting as an embedded marketing team for our clients ongoing.

10:00 Team growth and the 2023 plan

We’ve grown from four to seven people. We launched the managed service around July to September last year, and the feedback from existing clients was immediate. For 2023, the vision is really just to finesse what we’re currently doing. We’re very mindful of scaling too quickly. The focus is continuing to grow, but growing steadily and growing smartly, because we always want to be a premium service provider.

13:00 Running a business with your sister and team culture

Ali is very much in sales and business development. I’m in charge of client relationships and client management. Our roles are very distinct, we rely on the other person for that specific role, and there’s no overlap. Day to day, the conversations we have about huge business decisions always come back to: are we happy as human beings, are we happy with our relationship, are we happy with where the business is going? We also have happiness sessions with the team, where we talk about life, goals, professional and personal evolution. The feedback has been that they feel incredibly supported and empowered to do their job with autonomy.

About the host

Steve Grace is the founder and CEO of The Nudge Group, a technology-focused recruitment and advisory business. He has built and scaled companies across Australia and the US, and hosts Give It A Nudge to spotlight founders and operators building something meaningful.

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