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Building a digital lending and payments fintech: Brodie Haupt, Co-Founder and CEO of WLTH

Brodie Haupt, CEO and co-founder of fintech startup WLTH, joins the Give It A Nudge show to talk about co-founding a business with his brother.

by hao-nguyen on February 27, 2022

Brodie Haupt
Co-Founder and CEO, WLTH
Brodie Haupt is the co-founder and CEO of WLTH, a Brisbane-based digital lending and payments platform. Founded alongside his brother Drew, WLTH launched its first product in January 2021 and has since expanded into business payments through a merger with PaymentLogic and YakPay. WLTH is also a Parley for the Oceans partner, tying its lending and payment volumes to coastal clean-up impact.

Building a fintech with purpose: WLTH’s lending, payments, and ocean clean-up model

Brodie Haupt didn’t set out to build another lender. WLTH (pronounced Wealth) was designed from day one as a lending and payments platform with loyalty and purpose at its core. Its Parley for the Oceans partnership, which funds coastal clean-ups proportional to loan settlements, makes it one of the most distinctive purpose-led fintechs in Australia.

In this conversation with Steve Grace, Brodie covers the WLTH origin story, the decision to merge with PaymentLogic and YakPay to create WLTH Pay, the mechanics of the Parley partnership, and what it actually takes to close a Series A while building a fintech from scratch.

“We want to find people that expect excellence. People that want to be high performers and be part of something that means more than just their particular role.”

Digital home lending with broker market support

WLTH entered the market with its home lending product, offering a fully digital application process. Rather than the traditional model of reams of paperwork and a stranger in your lounge room, borrowers can upload ID, link internet banking, and get an approval within 48 hours. WLTH also supports the broker market, one of the only challenger lenders to do so.

The Parley for the Oceans partnership

Before founding WLTH, Brodie and Drew ran a no single-use plastics policy at their office: no keep cups with plastic lids, no new food containers. When designing WLTH, they wanted purpose in the DNA from the start. A card made from recycled ocean plastic and a partnership with Parley for the Oceans were the result. Every settled loan funds 50 square metres of Australian coastline clean-up. Brodie describes cleaning up 250 kilograms of marine debris from a single inlet near Whitsunday Island in two hours.

“We thought: how are we going to get Parley to partner with an organisation like us? And then it just happened.”

WLTH Pay: merging with PaymentLogic and YakPay

The acquisition of PaymentLogic and YakPay created WLTH Pay, a bill payments platform that enables SMEs to pay non-card-accepting merchants via credit card with 60 days interest-free. Combined with a loyalty program that acts as a points broker across airline and travel partners, WLTH is building toward a full business financial services suite.

Key takeaways

Purpose built into the DNA from day one is different from bolt-on CSR. WLTH’s Parley partnership is tied directly to loan and payment volumes, so the more the business grows, the more coastline gets cleaned up.
Family co-founders have a structural advantage in conflict resolution. Brodie and Drew have been in business together since school. The ability to have an argument and move on quickly is a real operational benefit.
Challenger lenders who support brokers get access to a distribution channel that most neobanks ignore. WLTH’s broker-first approach gives it reach beyond direct acquisition.
Capital raising teaches you your business model. Brodie found that the discipline of explaining WLTH to investors continuously forced them to stress-test assumptions and sharpen the pitch.

Episode chapters

00:00 Introduction and what WLTH does
05:00 The home lending product and broker market strategy
10:00 Co-founding with his brother Drew and how the dynamic works
15:00 Seed round via SAFE note and the Series A opening
20:00 The Parley for the Oceans partnership origin story
28:00 WLTH Pay: merging with PaymentLogic and YakPay
35:00 Loyalty engine and the points broker model

Companies and resources mentioned

  • WLTH – Brisbane-based digital lending and payments platform; wlth.com
  • Parley for the Oceans – Ocean conservation organisation and impact partner for WLTH
  • PaymentLogic and YakPay – Melbourne-based business payments platforms acquired and merged into WLTH Pay
  • SailGP – Global sailing competition; WLTH sponsors Team Australia and links performance to Parley impact metrics

Frequently asked questions

What is WLTH?

WLTH (pronounced Wealth) is a Brisbane-based digital lending and payments platform. Its products include home lending, WLTH Pay (business bill payments), and a loyalty engine. WLTH is a Parley for the Oceans partner, funding coastal clean-ups proportional to its business activity.

How does the Parley for the Oceans partnership work?

For every home loan settled through WLTH, the business funds the clean-up of 50 square metres of Australian coastline. The partnership is tied directly to lending volume, meaning the Parley impact scales with WLTH’s growth.

Who are the co-founders of WLTH?

WLTH was co-founded by brothers Brodie and Drew Haupt. The two have worked together since school and previously built a successful traditional finance brokerage with over $1.5 billion on its broking book before launching WLTH.

What is WLTH Pay?

WLTH Pay is a business bill payments platform built on the infrastructure of PaymentLogic and YakPay, acquired by WLTH in a merger. It allows SMEs to pay non-card-accepting merchants via credit card with 60 days interest-free, helping businesses manage cash flow.

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Full episode transcript

Steve Grace: Brodie, welcome to the show. Fantastic to have you on Give It A Nudge today.

Brodie Haupt: Thanks Steve, really happy to be here.

Steve Grace: Let’s start with a quick rundown on WLTH, the business, and then we’ll talk about you.

Brodie Haupt: WLTH is a lending and payments fintech with a core focus on loyalty and purpose. We came to market in January this year with our property-secured lending product, WLTH Lend. That’s a platform built through the lending with a digital application process, enabling consumers to apply for a loan completely digitally. We’ve also just launched to the wider broker market, making us one of the only challenger lenders in market that supports the broker sector.

Steve Grace: Tell me about the home loan product specifically.

Brodie Haupt: It’s about identifying the pain points that still exist in Australian lending. The first component is enabling consumers to jump online via our lending loop and have a full digital experience. You don’t need reams of papers or to chase down statements. You upload your ID, do your identity verification, log into your internet banking via the bank statements link, download all your statements, give them to us, and we can give you an approval within 48 hours. Just trying to make it simple.

Steve Grace: You run this with your brother Drew. How does that work?

Brodie Haupt: We’ve done pretty much everything together since we were kids. Primary school, composite classes, high school. After school we’d always look out for each other. If I got a job at a cafe I’d get him one, and vice versa. That carried all the way through to starting our business. The dynamic of working with your brother is that blood’s thicker than water. You can have an argument, walk out of the room, turn around, and get over it quickly. That’s different from having friends in business, which we’ve also done. For me and Drew, we’re yin and yang. Drew is down in Sydney this weekend for the SailGP as one of our sponsors, while I’m back in Brisbane running operations. It works well.

Steve Grace: How long have you been planning WLTH?

Brodie Haupt: We launched to the wider public in January this year but we’d been planning for 24 months before that. And we’ve gone down the venture capital route. We raised three million via a SAFE note earlier this year, which we closed in June. We gave investors a 30% discount with a 420% uplift triggered off the back of the Series A, which we’ve just opened about three weeks ago and will close at the end of January.

Steve Grace: Tell me about the Parley partnership because I think it’s what makes you really different.

Brodie Haupt: We’re really proud of this. When we had the idea for WLTH, we said we want purpose in the DNA of the organisation. Ocean purpose and the removal of single-use plastic was an easy choice because we were already practicing what we preached. Before the pandemic we had a rule in our office that no one would get their bonus if they brought in single-use plastic. No keep cups with plastic lids, no Noodles takeaway containers. So we were already living it. When building WLTH, we wanted to create a card made from recycled ocean plastic and then work out who the real impact-led organisations were in the space. Parley were always number one for us. I knew Parley’s partnership with Adidas, the recycled ocean plastic shoes. That was their most successful global campaign, a billion dollars in sales with zero ad spend. I had to buy mine off StockX.

Steve Grace: So how did you actually land the partnership?

Brodie Haupt: We were speaking to card manufacturers and one of them, Joseki and Devron, mentioned they were about to partner with a new supplier. Our CEO Dave said to me, god help us if this is Parley. We’ll sign tomorrow whatever the price. Their BDM came back and said he couldn’t tell us who it was but there was a fairly good chance it could be those guys. About a month later we all jumped on a call together, told them our story, and they said yes. Every settled loan we give Parley the ability to clean up 50 square metres of Australian coastline or seabed. That’s about one US dollar per square metre. We did our first clean-up about six weeks ago up in the Great Barrier Reef. We removed discarded ghost nets, watched coral spawning, had Nat Geo film guys up there with us, a marine biologist, a shark expert. We cleaned up just over a kilometre of coastline on Whitsunday Island and pulled out 250 kilos of marine plastics in about two hours. From an inlet that looked pristine from the boat.

Steve Grace: That’s extraordinary. What’s next for WLTH?

Brodie Haupt: Our next product is WLTH Pay, a bill payments platform built to support SMEs. We merged with PaymentLogic and YakPay, a leading business payments platform out of Melbourne. They’ve done 4.4 billion dollars worth of transactions over eight years with 7,500 active businesses and 152,500 businesses paid through the platform. We’re bringing WLTH Pay to market built on their infrastructure. SMEs will be able to pay all their bills, including to non-card-accepting merchants, via credit card with 60 days interest-free. We’ll also bring our own payment gateway to compete with Stripe and PayPal, and hold it all together with a WLTH loyalty engine that acts as a points broker, letting customers transfer points into different airline and travel partner networks.

Steve Grace: Why should someone want to work at WLTH?

Brodie Haupt: First, the purpose. Every week we educate our team about the Parley partnership and how we’re making an impact. The team is really bought into that. But fundamentally it’s about culture. We want people who expect excellence. High performers who want to be part of something that means more than just their particular role.

Steve Grace: Brodie, thank you so much for coming on the show. I love what you’re building.

Brodie Haupt: Thanks Steve. I’ll just add one thing for anyone starting out or about to go into the capital raising journey: reach out. The amount of collaboration happening in Australian fintech is incredible. Don’t be afraid to ask for help and to share what you’re working on.

About your host

Steve Grace is the founder and CEO of The Nudge Group, one of Australia’s leading talent and recruitment businesses. He launched Give It A Nudge to have honest conversations with founders, operators, and investors about what it really takes to build a company.

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