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Providing businesses with finance on demand: James Spence, Product Strategy Manager at Shift

James Spence joins Steve to talk about how Shift can provide businesses with finance on demand, the company’s rebrand from GetCapital, and his own startup journey.

by hao-nguyen on May 1, 2022

James Spence
Product Strategy Manager, Shift
James Spence leads product strategy at Shift, Australia’s B2B lending platform formerly known as GetCapital. With a background spanning aerospace engineering, management consulting, and fintech, he brings a systems-thinking approach to building data-driven financial products for SMEs.

From GetCapital to Shift: Building Australia’s leading B2B lending platform

James Spence has one of the more unusual paths into fintech. He started as an aerospace engineer before pivoting to management consulting, then landing at Shift where he now leads product strategy. In this conversation he unpacks what it takes to build a data platform inside a financial services business, why Shift rebranded from GetCapital, and the one thing he believes separates great companies from average ones.

Shift has been doubling revenue every year for seven years. James walks through the deliberate decisions behind the business: building a proprietary data layer to make faster credit decisions, expanding from unsecured business loans into trade credit, and creating an autonomous culture that lets smart people do their best work.

“Strategy without execution is just a dream. The companies that win are the ones that can actually get things done.”

The rebrand from GetCapital to Shift

The name GetCapital made sense when the business was a single-product lender. As Shift expanded its suite of financial products for Australian SMEs, the old name became a constraint. The rebrand to Shift created space to grow into a broader financial services platform without being anchored to one product category.

Building a data platform in lending

Most traditional lenders rely on static credit bureau data and financial statements. Shift invested early in a proprietary data platform that ingests real-time business transaction data, enabling faster credit decisions, better risk pricing, and better outcomes for SME customers.

“The data platform is the moat. If you can make better credit decisions than anyone else, you win on price, speed, and approval rates.”

Trade credit as a growth lever

While most people think of business lending as term loans, trade credit is a massive and largely underserved market. Shift moved into this space as a natural extension of its data capabilities, offering SMEs a way to manage cash flow across their supply chain relationships.

Key takeaways

Execution beats strategy every time. The ability to actually deliver is what separates high-growth companies from those that stagnate.
Build your moat in data. For a lending business, proprietary data creates compounding advantages in risk pricing, approval speed, and customer outcomes.
Brand names can become a constraint. GetCapital was a great name for a single-product lender but it limited how the market perceived the business as it expanded.
Autonomous cultures retain great people. Giving smart employees freedom to make decisions without bureaucratic overhead is both a recruitment and performance advantage.
Remote work requires intentional culture design. The transition to remote-first requires deliberate thinking about how decisions get made, how trust gets built, and how teams stay aligned.

Episode chapters

00:00 Introduction and James’s background in aerospace engineering and consulting
04:30 How James ended up in fintech and what drew him to Shift
08:00 Shift’s growth story: doubling revenue for seven consecutive years
12:00 Why Shift rebranded from GetCapital and what that unlocked strategically
17:00 Building the data platform and why it is Shift’s core competitive moat
22:00 Expanding into trade credit and serving the full SME cash flow stack
27:30 Execution vs strategy: why James believes execution is the real differentiator
32:00 Autonomous culture, remote work, and what makes Shift’s people practices different
36:00 Advice for founders building fintech products in Australia

Companies and resources mentioned

  • Shift (formerly GetCapital) – Australian B2B lending platform providing unsecured business loans and trade credit to SMEs

Frequently asked questions

What does Shift do?

Shift is an Australian B2B lending platform providing unsecured business loans and trade credit to SMEs. It uses a proprietary data platform to make faster, more accurate credit decisions than traditional lenders.

Why did GetCapital rebrand to Shift?

The GetCapital brand was closely associated with a single product. As the business expanded its product suite, the name felt limiting. Shift was chosen to create space for a broader financial platform identity.

What is trade credit and why does Shift offer it?

Trade credit lets businesses purchase from suppliers on deferred payment terms. Shift entered this market as a natural extension of its data capabilities, giving SMEs a way to manage cash flow across supply chains beyond just term loans.

What is James Spence’s background?

James started as an aerospace engineer, then moved into management consulting before joining Shift to lead product strategy. His cross-disciplinary background informs his systems-thinking approach to building financial products.

What makes Shift’s culture distinctive?

Shift operates with a high degree of autonomy, giving employees freedom to make decisions without excessive management layers. The company is also remote-first, requiring deliberate investment in culture and communication practices.

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About your host

Steve Grace is the founder and CEO of The Nudge Group, one of Australia’s leading talent and recruitment businesses. He launched Give It A Nudge to have honest conversations with founders, operators, and investors about what it really takes to build a company.

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