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Revolutionising Creativity: Jessie Hughes on Leonardo.Ai and Canva

Jessie Hughes, Senior Creative Technologist at Leonardo.Ai, talks with Steve Grace just days after Canva’s acquisition, covering AI’s impact on creativity, 19 million users, and democratising design.

by hao-nguyen on August 13, 2024

About the guest

Jessie Hughes

Senior Creative Technologist at Leonardo.Ai

Jessie Hughes is Senior Creative Technologist at Leonardo.Ai, the Australian generative AI platform acquired by Canva in 2024. She has a background in interaction design and VR filmmaking and was an early adopter of generative AI, having worked with the technology from its earliest consumer stages. She has also written an adult animated TV show and regularly delivers keynotes on the creative applications of AI. At Leonardo.Ai she sits at the intersection of product, community, and creative education.

Episode overview

Steve Grace records this episode just 48 hours after Canva announced its acquisition of Leonardo.Ai. He sits down with Jessie Hughes, Senior Creative Technologist at Leonardo.Ai, to talk through what the acquisition means, what the platform actually does, and what the arrival of generative AI means for creativity, employment, and the Australian tech ecosystem.

The Canva acquisition and why Leonardo stays independent

The acquisition was driven by two things: Leonardo.Ai’s Phoenix foundational model, which Jessie describes as Australia’s first homegrown foundational AI model with particularly strong text-in-image performance, and the cultural and strategic alignment between the two Australian companies. Both are built around the idea that powerful creative tools should be accessible to everyone, not just professionals with expensive software and years of training.

Leonardo remains operationally independent under the acquisition. This was important to the team because Leonardo’s competitive advantage is speed: shipping new features every week and pivoting in response to a market that changes daily. Remaining independent means Leonardo can continue to move at startup velocity while gaining access to Canva’s distribution network and financial backing.

“We move every day. We’re shipping, we just ship it’s next thing next thing next thing. Being able to maintain that was really important by remaining independent.”

Jessie Hughes 23:10

What Leonardo.Ai actually does

Leonardo.Ai is a generative AI content creation suite. At its core it generates images from text prompts, but it goes significantly further than standalone image generators. The real-time canvas lets users sketch rough doodles that the model transforms into polished renders or product photography in seconds. The universal upscaler uses AI to intelligently fill in the missing information when converting low-resolution images to high resolution. Video motion tools let filmmakers animate static images. A prompt enhancer co-writes prompts when a user struggles to articulate what they are trying to create.

For teams and businesses, Leonardo offers LoRA fine-tuning: you train the model on your brand’s visual identity and every subsequent output reflects your aesthetic without manual adjustment. The platform also has team features and the Leonardo for Teams tier.

“I sat down with a computer and I could make anything in my head. And so could my neighbour’s kid. And so could I. That’s what we built Leo for.”

Jessie Hughes on democratising creativity 08:30

Democratising creativity is not a threat to creative professionals

Jessie is direct about the jobs question. She draws the parallel with Canva: she has a three-year design degree. Canva lets anyone make what she learned to make. Rather than feeling threatened, she thinks this is genuinely positive because it frees professional designers to do the things that actually require their skills, not produce newsletter templates and basic social assets.

The more powerful framing is the upskilling argument. Generative AI removes the capital and technical training barriers that previously prevented people from realising creative visions. The person who could imagine a story but could never afford an animation studio can now make animated content. The brand without a photography budget can produce high-quality imagery. Jessie’s phrase is “the rising tide”: everyone’s creative capability lifts, including professionals who can now execute ideas faster and at a higher level.

The AI space race and what it feels like from inside Leonardo

Jessie describes the pace as unlike anything she has experienced. She built a keynote on a Wednesday and by Friday had to open by telling the audience to ignore half the slides because three major developments had occurred in 48 hours. Every morning she wakes up and something has changed. The competitive pressure is constant: a competitor releases a feature, and the team has to assess whether to respond, ignore, or leapfrog. With 19 million users and a Discord community that is the third largest in the world, the stakes of getting those decisions right are significant.

Key takeaways

Australia built a foundational AI model.Phoenix is Leonardo.Ai’s homegrown foundational model, the first built in Australia. Strong text adherence in image generation was a key factor in Canva’s acquisition decision.
Remaining independent after acquisition is a competitive strategy.Leonardo’s speed of shipping is its moat. Remaining operationally independent within Canva protects that velocity while giving access to distribution and capital that independent startups cannot match.
Generative AI removes tedium, not creativity.The things AI replaces in a designer’s day are the tedious, time-consuming, mechanical tasks. What it frees up is more time for the work that actually requires creative judgment, emotion, and storytelling.
Language is a barrier to AI adoption and Canva knows how to lower it.Calling features “Magic Studio” instead of “diffusion model interface” is not just marketing. It is how you bring people along. Leonardo sees this partnership with Canva as crucial to mainstream adoption.
19 million users in 20 months is what genuine product-market fit looks like.Leonardo.Ai grew at roughly a million users per month across every continent and demographic. The third-largest Discord community in the world signals a loyalty and engagement that most consumer apps never achieve.
The AI space race changes daily and you have to move fast to stay relevant.Keynotes built on Wednesday are outdated by Friday. The founders and operators winning in AI are those who have structured their teams and processes to ship continuously and pivot without losing momentum.
Brand training through LoRA is the enterprise AI adoption path.Businesses do not want generic AI outputs. LoRA fine-tuning trains Leonardo on your visual identity so every image it generates reflects your brand without manual correction. This is how generative AI becomes an enterprise product rather than a consumer novelty.

Mentioned in this episode

Frequently asked questions

What is Leonardo.Ai and what does it do?

Leonardo.Ai is a generative AI content creation suite built in Australia. It generates images from text prompts, transforms rough sketches into polished renders via a real-time canvas, upscales low-resolution images, adds motion to static images, and helps teams maintain consistent visual branding through LoRA model fine-tuning. It grew to 19 million users in under 20 months and was acquired by Canva in 2024 while remaining operationally independent.

Why did Canva acquire Leonardo.Ai?

Canva acquired Leonardo.Ai for its Phoenix foundational model, which has strong text-in-image performance, and for the strategic alignment between both companies’ missions around democratising creative tools. Leonardo remains independent under the acquisition to preserve its startup speed and shipping velocity, while gaining access to Canva’s distribution network and financial resources.

Is generative AI going to take creative jobs?

Jessie Hughes’ view is that generative AI expands creative potential rather than eliminating jobs. Just as Canva enabled non-designers to do basic design without eliminating professional designers, AI enables more people to execute creative visions while freeing professionals from tedious mechanical tasks. The bigger risk is not using AI and falling behind competitors who do.

How many users does Leonardo.Ai have?

At the time of this episode, Leonardo.Ai had 19 million users across every continent, growing at roughly a million users per month. The platform also has the third-largest Discord community in the world, with just under two million members.

What is a LoRA in the context of Leonardo.Ai?

A LoRA (Low-Rank Adaptation) is a fine-tuning technique where you train the model on a specific body of work, such as your brand’s visual identity, your own art, or a specific aesthetic. Once trained, applying the LoRA to any new generation ensures the outputs match that visual style without requiring manual editing or re-prompting for every image.

Topics discussed

Generative AIAI ToolsCreativityCanvaAustralian TechContent CreationFuture of WorkDesign

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00:36 The Canva acquisition

Our acquisition was last Tuesday to the public. It is a crazy time for us as a company. Leonardo is still remaining independent as Leo. The acquisition means Canva now has access to our foundational model. We built Australia’s first foundational model, which is a massive achievement for our research team, called Phoenix. It has amazing text adherence. Text was really hard previously with gen AI but this model is very good at it and that is a little bit of why Canva sat up and said oh this is world class. And then there is just the beautiful synergy of Aussies. If you meet any of the founders the vibe is so Australian and chill and everyone is like yeah cool yeah cool we can work together. The acquisition is an enabler. We get the distribution network plus Canva’s audience scale and we get to maintain the independence to keep moving at our pace.

03:30 What Leonardo.Ai actually does

Leonardo.Ai is a generative AI-powered content creation suite. We excel at image generation. You can generate imagery of any aesthetic you can think of. But what is cool about Leo is we also have all these other tools. There is a real-time canvas where you can doodle, literally just sketch, and all of a sudden your crappy little sketch can turn into a beautiful image or a photograph or a product render. We have one of the best universal upscalers in the game. We have motion capabilities. We have a prompt enhancer that works with you in collaboration to articulate what you are seeing in your head. It is a One-Stop shop. You take a project from start to finish within one platform at world-class quality.

08:23 Democratising creativity: what it actually means

I have a three-year design degree. You can use Canva. You can make whatever you want. That took me three years to learn. Why should I be going to make your newsletter template? I think I should be doing these other creative things. When I talk about gen AI and the capability that is going to be afforded, it is that more people are empowered, more people have more skills, and that is an amazing thing. Generative AI removes the capital and technical training barriers. The person who could imagine a story but never had the resources to execute it now has a pathway. The rising tide lifts everyone’s creative capability including professionals who can execute faster and at a higher level.

15:36 The Leonardo and Canva synergy

Canva has nailed democratising skills. They made things that are hard super easy and they are so nice about it. I love their language. If you look at anything Canva puts out with AI they call it the Magic Studio. Magic background. Magic un-something. That is what it is. It is magic. And language is so important when you are bringing people along with AI because technology can feel like a barrier. You do not need to know what a diffusion process is. You just need to know how to use the application end. Canva has been brilliant at this and that is the partnership that matters.

23:10 The pace of the space race

I wake up every morning and I look at my phone and I think we’ve got a big day today. A competitor has done this. Someone is doing that. Now we have to assess and go. I built a keynote on a Wednesday and by Friday I was telling the audience to ignore half the slides because three things had changed in 48 hours. We have 19 million users grown in under 20 months. We have the third largest Discord community in the world. Every continent. Every demographic. And we have just had the best month in our history. The pace is relentless and I love it. Remaining independent within Canva means we keep that pace. We keep shipping. That is the moat.

About the host

Steve Grace is the CEO and co-founder of The Nudge Group, a talent and advisory firm working with Australia’s fastest-growing tech and professional services companies. He has spent two decades recruiting and advising executive teams. Give It A Nudge is where he shares unfiltered conversations with founders, operators, and investors building something worth talking about.

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