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“We’re trying to tackle neurodegenerative disease”: Matt Keon, Co-Founder & CEO of GenieUs Genomic

Matt Keon, co-founder and CEO of GenieUs Genomic joined Give It A Nudge to talk about the story and mission behind their company.

by hao-nguyen on September 11, 2022

About the guest

Matt Keon

Co-Founder and CEO at GenieUs Genomic

Matt Keon is the co-founder and CEO of GenieUs Genomic, a Sydney-based biotech startup using genomics to tackle neurodegenerative diseases including motor neurone disease, Alzheimer’s, and Parkinson’s. He came to the field from an advertising background, drawn in after meeting people living with MND. His two co-founders are themselves living with the disease. Matt is a published author on peer-reviewed genomics papers and has been building GenieUs for four years.

Episode overview

Matt Keon joins Give It A Nudge to tell one of the most unusual origin stories the show has featured: a former advertising professional who, after meeting two people with motor neurone disease through coincidental social encounters, co-founded a genomics startup with them to tackle the disease. The conversation covers how GenieUs uses genomic data to find biomarkers and disease targets, the challenges of raising capital without a science background, the expensive research mistakes that shaped the company, and how framing affects resilience in founders.

An unlikely origin story

Four years before this episode was recorded, Matt was an advertising professional with no science background. He met a friend’s acquaintance living with MND, sat in their living room, and realized that genomic data for neurodegenerative diseases was fifteen to twenty-five years behind where cancer research was. Soon after, he coincidentally met a second person with MND through another friend. The three of them decided to tackle the problem together. Both people with MND became co-founders of the company.

“We didn’t really know how we were going to do it. All we knew was we wanted to solve a problem. And I just got on the phone, read every research paper I could.”

Matt Keon 3:00

Building credibility from outside the field

Raising capital with an advertising background in a hard science field required Matt to construct credibility from scratch. GenieUs started as a not-for-profit to keep the mission pure, then transitioned to a commercial entity once the research began producing valuable IP including biomarkers. Matt published research papers and became a first author, assembled a team of bioinformaticians and respected advisors, and focused on what he calls true believers: investors who had seen the data and believed in the process before any institutional money came in.

“Publishing was important for us in terms of credibility. We publish papers, I’m an author on all the papers, I’m a first author on one of them. And we started hiring really good people.”

Matt Keon 8:00

Expensive lessons and the importance of study design

Matt reflects on two categories of mistakes over four years. On fundraising: he underestimated how long it takes to bring institutional investors on a journey and tried to close investment too quickly in the early years rather than building relationships from day one. On research: the quality of study design determines whether data is rigorous and reliable. Setting up experiments without enough variables controlled for led to results that could not be built on, which he describes as a steep and expensive learning curve.

“Resilience is a very important muscle to have in a business. And the way you frame what’s happening to you is really critical. If the frame isn’t right, that can change the business dramatically.”

Matt Keon 13:00

The science: RNA therapies and what GenieUs has found

Matt explains genomics and RNA therapies using the analogy of a conductor and orchestra: microRNA is the conductor, genes are the orchestra, and messenger RNA is the sheet music. When one element is dysregulated, RNA therapies can intervene without touching the gene itself, making them safer than approaches like CRISPR. GenieUs has validated two mutations in patients that appear to cause significant disease pathology, and is now screening drugs against those mutations with a goal to stop disease progression within the year.

Key takeaways

You don’t need a domain background to found in a field. Matt applied advertising skills — strategy, execution, creativity — to biotech. The outsider perspective allowed him to ask questions the field had stopped asking and move faster than academic institutions constrained by grant cycles.
Co-founders with lived experience change the mission equation. Both of Matt’s co-founders have MND. That daily reminder of what the company exists for creates a motivational foundation that no pitch deck or board presentation can replicate.
Credibility is constructed, not inherited. In a credibility-driven field, publishing papers, hiring respected scientists, and getting onto advisory boards are not optional extras. They are the infrastructure that makes fundraising possible when you start as an outsider.
Take investors on a long journey before asking for money. Trying to raise from institutional investors before they have seen your progress over twelve to twenty-four months is a waste of resources. The more successful approach is to build the relationship from day one and let the data do the persuading over time.
Study design is not a detail; it determines whether results are real. In genomics research, every variable matters. Sloppy study design produces data that looks like a finding but cannot be validated, leading to wasted time and money. Getting this right early would have saved GenieUs significant resources.
How you frame rejection shapes your next move. VCs expect a very low hit rate on their investments. Understanding that framework changes how a founder interprets a no. Rejection from a VC does not mean the business won’t succeed. It often means you haven’t yet met the right investor or the timing is off.

Mentioned in this episode

Frequently asked questions

What does GenieUs Genomic do?

GenieUs Genomic sequences the genomes of patients with neurodegenerative diseases including motor neurone disease (ALS), Alzheimer’s, and Parkinson’s. The company uses bioinformatics to find biomarkers and disease targets unique to those patients, with the goal of developing therapies that stop disease progression. They are currently screening drugs against two validated mutations found in MND patients.

How did Matt Keon end up founding a genomics company with no science background?

Matt came from an advertising background and met two people living with motor neurone disease through separate social encounters. Recognising that the genomic data available for neurodegenerative diseases was fifteen to twenty-five years behind cancer research, he began reading every paper he could find, assembled a team of scientists and advisors, and published research papers to build credibility in the field. Both people he met became co-founders of the company.

What are RNA therapies and how might they help with MND?

RNA therapies intervene in the process between a gene and the protein it produces, rather than editing the gene itself. They can regulate overactive microRNAs (the “conductor” that controls which genes are expressed) or replace faulty messenger RNAs (the “sheet music” that instructs protein production). Because they don’t alter the underlying gene, they are considered safer than gene-editing approaches like CRISPR, and are showing particular promise for diseases where specific mutations have been identified.

How does GenieUs raise capital without institutional backing?

GenieUs has been primarily bootstrapped and funded by high-net-worth individuals who Matt calls true believers: people who have seen the data and believe in the process. The company started as a not-for-profit to build credibility and access goodwill, then transitioned to a commercial structure once valuable IP emerged. Institutional investors are expected to come in once specific milestones are achieved.

What is the difference between a biomarker and a drug target?

A biomarker is a measurable substance found in patients that is not present in healthy controls. It can be used to track whether a disease is progressing or whether a treatment is working. A drug target is something that a therapy can act on to interrupt the disease process. GenieUs found a molecule in the spinal fluid of ALS patients that functions as both a biomarker and a potential drug target, which is now being pursued as an RNA therapy in partnership with a Perth research institute.

Topics discussed

genomicsneurodegenerative diseasemotor neurone diseaseALSbiotech startupRNA therapybiomarkersstartup fundraisingfounder resiliencescience communicationfounder origin storydeep tech

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0:00 Introduction and what GenieUs does

Matt Keon, co-founder and CEO of GenieUs Genomic. We’re trying to tackle neurodegenerative disease, particularly motor neurone disease or ALS. We sequence patients, look at their genomes, and try to map those to find what the problem is, find new targets or biomarkers, and hopefully develop therapies on the back of that.

3:00 Origin story

Four years ago I met a person with the disease through a friend. We sat in their living room and what became apparent was I had a naive interest in genomics and in neurodegenerative disease we were fifteen to twenty-five years behind cancer in terms of data sets. Soon after I coincidentally met another person with MND through another friend. All three of us sat together and decided to try and help solve this. We didn’t really know how we were going to do it. All we knew was we wanted to solve a problem.

9:00 Fundraising and building credibility

We started as a not-for-profit because we thought that was the purest way to get where we wanted to go. As we did research we started to find biomarkers, valuable things in the data. We valued the IP, set up a company, bought that IP, then went out to raise from true believers. Publishing was important for credibility. We published papers, I’m a first author on one of them, and we started hiring really good bioinformaticians and research scientists. High-net-worth investors came in on the back of that. Next year we’ll go to institutional investors once we achieve this year’s milestones.

15:00 Mistakes and resilience

Two mistake categories. Fundraising: I underestimated developing investor relationships over a long-term horizon. Not expecting them to invest in the first or second year, but taking them on a journey from day one. Research: study design. The way you set out your studies is very important. There are so many variables. We probably thought what we had was okay, but much more focus is now put on study designs. And generally: resilience is a critical muscle. The way you frame what’s happening to you can change the business dramatically.

20:00 RNA therapies and the greatest achievement

The central dogma in science is DNA makes RNA makes protein. A microRNA is the conductor of the orchestra, genes are the orchestra, messenger RNA is the sheet music. RNA therapies come in and either replace the sheet music or calm down a hyperactive conductor, without targeting the gene itself. In two patients we’ve found two mutations which we’ve validated and look like they’re causing a lot of the pathology. We’re currently screening drugs against those mutations. If we achieve that by end of year, we’ll have done in four years what normally takes ten to fifteen.

About the host

Steve Grace is the founder and CEO of The Nudge Group, a technology-focused recruitment and advisory business. He has built and scaled companies across Australia and the US, and hosts Give It A Nudge to spotlight founders and operators building something meaningful.

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