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Mark Bryan and Tom Matthews from Pemba Capital Partners talk investing in technology companies

Pemba Capital Partners Mark Bryan and Tom Matthews join Steve on the latest episode of Give It A Nudge to chat about investing in technology companies.

by hao-nguyen on August 8, 2021

About the guests

Mark Bryan

Partner at Pemba Capital Partners

Mark Bryan is a partner at Pemba Capital Partners, one of Australia’s most active private equity investors in the technology sector. Pemba has completed more than 20 technology investments in recent years, focusing on software and technology-enabled services businesses with strong recurring revenue, defensible market positions, and capable management teams. Mark brings deep experience in technology sector investment across Australia and internationally.

Tom Matthews

Partner at Pemba Capital Partners

Tom Matthews is a partner at Pemba Capital Partners with a focus on identifying and investing in technology companies that have proven business models and are ready for accelerated growth with capital and operational support. Tom works with portfolio companies on strategy, team building, and market expansion, drawing on Pemba’s experience across more than 20 technology investments in the Australian market.

Episode overview

Mark Bryan and Tom Matthews from Pemba Capital Partners joined Steve Grace on Give It A Nudge to talk about what it means to be one of the most active private equity investors in Australian technology, what they look for in a company before investing, how they work with management teams after they invest, and what founders should understand about the private equity model before approaching a firm. Pemba has completed more than 20 tech investments in recent years, spanning software, SaaS, and technology-enabled services businesses across Australia.

What Pemba looks for in a technology investment

Pemba focuses on software and technology-enabled services businesses with recurring revenue, defensible market positions, and management teams that want a capital partner for growth rather than a passive investor. The firm is typically investing in companies that are past the early startup stage and have proven their model, but are not yet operating at the scale their opportunity justifies. The investment thesis is about acceleration: using capital and operational expertise to help a good business get to its potential faster.

“We look for businesses that have a proven model, recurring revenue, and a management team that genuinely wants to grow. We’re not here to replace management, we’re here to back them and give them the resources to get to where they want to go.”

Mark Bryan 8:00

More than 20 tech investments in recent years

Pemba’s focus on technology has been consistent and deliberate. More than 20 investments in Australian technology businesses in recent years makes them one of the most active firms in the sector. Mark and Tom explain that the technology sector’s combination of recurring revenue, low capital intensity, and scalable distribution makes it a natural focus for a firm that wants to build value systematically rather than through financial engineering.

Working with management after investment

The post-investment relationship is something Pemba puts as much thought into as the deal itself. Tom describes the firm’s approach as genuinely collaborative: they work with management teams on strategy, hiring, acquisitions, and international expansion rather than managing by KPI dashboard from a distance. The best portfolio company relationships are ones where management teams feel they have a senior partner in the business rather than an oversight function.

“The best investments are the ones where the management team treats us as a partner, not as a board to report to. That’s when you see the real acceleration.”

Tom Matthews 20:00

What founders should know before approaching private equity

Mark and Tom are direct about what they see in founders who approach them well versus founders who approach them poorly. The firms that get the most value from a private equity relationship come in with a clear vision of what they want to achieve, an honest assessment of what they need help with, and a genuine interest in partnership rather than just capital. Founders who see private equity purely as a liquidity event often find the relationship less productive than founders who see it as a growth tool.

Key takeaways

Private equity in tech focuses on proven models, not early-stage bets. Pemba invests in companies that have already demonstrated their business model, have recurring revenue, and are ready to grow faster with the right capital and support. This is different from venture capital, which invests earlier and accepts higher failure rates. Understanding which type of capital partner is appropriate for the stage of the business is essential before approaching either.
Recurring revenue is the single most important business model characteristic for PE investors. Pemba’s focus on recurring revenue reflects its importance to value creation in software and technology services. Recurring revenue makes businesses more predictable, more resilient, and more valuable. Founders building technology businesses should be relentless about converting project-based or one-off revenue into subscription or retainer structures wherever possible.
The management team is as important as the business model. Mark and Tom both emphasise that Pemba invests in management teams as much as in businesses. The quality of the leadership team, their ambition, and their openness to working collaboratively with a capital partner are assessed as carefully as the financial metrics. A great business model with an uninspiring management team is less interesting than a good business model with an exceptional team.
PE can accelerate M&A in ways founders cannot do alone. One of the clearest value-add contributions Pemba makes to portfolio companies is helping them identify, evaluate, and complete acquisitions that would be too complex or too expensive for management teams without institutional capital behind them. For software businesses, acquisitions can add product capability, customer bases, and geographic reach faster than organic development.
The post-investment relationship defines returns more than the deal price. Tom describes the best portfolio company relationships as genuine partnerships where management teams bring their real challenges and Pemba brings resources, connections, and experience to bear on solving them. The quality of that relationship, not the entry valuation, is what determines whether the investment generates excellent returns.
Australian technology companies are increasingly globally competitive. Mark and Tom observe that the Australian technology sector has matured significantly. More companies are building globally viable software products and competing in international markets from day one or early in their development. That maturity makes the Australian technology investment landscape more interesting and more competitive than it was even five years ago.

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Frequently asked questions

What is Pemba Capital Partners?

Pemba Capital Partners is an Australian private equity firm that focuses on investing in software and technology-enabled services businesses. The firm has completed more than 20 technology investments in recent years and is one of the most active PE investors in the Australian technology sector. Pemba invests in companies that have proven business models and are ready to accelerate growth with capital and operational support.

What type of technology companies does Pemba invest in?

Pemba focuses on software and technology-enabled services businesses with recurring revenue, defensible market positions, and management teams that want a genuine capital partner for growth. The firm typically invests in companies that are past the early startup stage and have demonstrated their model, but are not yet operating at the scale their market opportunity justifies.

How is private equity different from venture capital for technology companies?

Private equity firms like Pemba typically invest in proven businesses with existing revenue and a demonstrated business model, while venture capital invests earlier and accepts higher failure rates in exchange for the potential for larger returns. PE investors focus on acceleration and value creation in businesses that already work, while VC investors focus on finding the companies that will work at all.

How does Pemba work with management teams after investing?

Pemba’s post-investment approach is collaborative rather than oversight-focused. The firm works with management teams on strategy, hiring, acquisitions, and international expansion, treating the relationship as a genuine partnership rather than a reporting structure. The best outcomes come from management teams that bring their real challenges to Pemba and use the firm’s network, capital, and experience as active resources.

What should founders know before approaching a private equity firm?

According to Mark and Tom, founders who get the most from PE relationships come in with a clear vision of what they want to achieve, an honest view of what they need help with, and a genuine interest in working with a partner rather than just taking capital. Founders who treat PE as a pure liquidity event rather than a growth tool typically find the relationship less productive than those who understand what operational partnership means.

Topics discussed

private equitytech investingSaaSrecurring revenueventure capitalM&AAustraliamanagement teamsportfolio companiestechnology sector

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Steve Grace is the founder and CEO of The Nudge Group, a technology-focused recruitment and advisory business. He has built and scaled companies across Australia and the US, and hosts Give It A Nudge to spotlight founders and operators building something meaningful.

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