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Leaving Canva to launch his own start-up: Gary Zurnamer, Co-founder of Vouch

Vouch co-founder & CEO Gary Zurnamer spoke to Steve about leaving his role at Canva to launch his own start-up, the inspiration behind Vouch, the company’s recent $8 million Seed round, and more!

by hao-nguyen on July 17, 2022

About the guest

Gary Zurnamer

Co-Founder & CEO at Vouch

Gary Zurnamer is the co-founder and CEO of Vouch, a video collection platform for testimonials, employer branding, internal communications, and more. Before starting Vouch, he built his content and marketing career across the NRL, The Iconic, Stackla, and most recently Canva, where scaling enterprise customer stories revealed the gap his product would eventually fill.

Episode overview

Gary Zurnamer left one of Australia’s most desirable places to work to solve a problem he’d lived firsthand. At Canva, his team was trying to collect video testimonials from enterprise customers at scale and finding it near-impossible. Remote production agencies were too slow. Recording Zoom calls was messy. That frustration became Vouch.

In this episode, Gary walks Steve through what it actually took to leave a career-defining job during a global pandemic and launch a video SaaS company from scratch, how Vouch found early customers, raised an $8 million seed round co-led by Australian and US investors, and why being product-led isn’t just a funding strategy but a deliberate philosophy about trust.

From the NRL to Canva and back to zero

Gary’s career reads like a blueprint for eventually building Vouch. At 19 he joined the NRL as a digital marketer and instinctively pivoted to short-form video content before anyone was talking about it. He moved through The Iconic, spent five years in London on the brand and agency side, joined Stackla to work on user-generated content, and eventually landed at Canva to help scale their enterprise function. Each role layered on the same core insight: video at scale is hard, and most businesses are still figuring it out.

“If Canva was struggling with it then others are probably struggling with it. That’s kind of where the impetus for that started.”

Gary Zurnamer 09:00

Raising $8M from Australia and the US during a challenging market

Vouch launched a beta in March 2021 with early angel funding from strategic people including the former CPO of Calendly. The business then raised $8 million Australian in a seed round co-led by Our Innovation Fund in Australia and Stage 2 Capital in the US. Stage 2 Capital’s founder scaled HubSpot to $100 million in revenue, and their LP base maps almost exactly to Vouch’s target market, making distribution a key rationale for the deal.

“Their network of people that fund and their LPs are pretty much our entire target market, which was a big pulling factor for us.”

Gary Zurnamer 19:00

Cold emailing your way to a dream angel investor

Gary cold emailed the former CPO of Calendly four times before getting a reply. The tactic that worked was straightforward: instead of asking for a commitment, he offered an easy out. “I basically gave him an out,” Gary says, and the investor agreed to take the call. That investor is now part of Vouch’s story.

“I sent him another email and said hey, rather than committing to doing something else, why don’t I just take you through what we’re thinking. And if it’s interesting great, if not we don’t have to speak again.”

Gary Zurnamer 14:00

Imposter syndrome and the only antidote that works

Gary is candid about how imposter syndrome never goes away, and Steve confirms he still feels it after 19 years. Gary’s answer is blunt: just do the next thing. Don’t let the feeling become a reason to stop. Vouch’s culture extends the same principle to the team, actively encouraging junior employees to challenge leadership decisions and bring full analysis of what is broken.

“Just get the next thing done. Just keep moving forward. You bulldoze your way through it a little bit and don’t think about it too much.”

Gary Zurnamer 25:00

Key takeaways

Leave when the problem aligns perfectly with your background. Gary did not quit Canva impulsively. His entire career in content, video, and brand had been building toward a specific gap he could now see clearly. The timing felt right because the fit was undeniable.
Launch early and iterate from real customers. Vouch’s MVP came from customer conversations, not internal assumptions. The team deliberately resisted building in a bubble and brought large organisations like CultureAmp into a closed beta before the product was fully baked.
Cold email the person you need, and give them an easy way out. Gary emailed the former CPO of Calendly four times before getting a response. The line that worked was offering no commitment, just a quick conversation. Persistence plus low friction beats a clever pitch every time.
Find US investors whose LPs are your actual customers. Stage 2 Capital’s value to Vouch was not just capital. Their LP network mapped almost exactly to Vouch’s target market, turning the investment into a distribution play from day one.
Product-led growth improves unit economics and fundability. Seventy-five percent of Vouch’s team is in product and engineering. When people can get themselves to value without a sales rep, the capital efficiency of the business becomes a fundraising asset in itself.
Imposter syndrome is not a bug, it is a feature. Both Gary and Steve confirm it never disappears. The only workable response is to treat the next task as the whole job and keep executing.
Culture is built in person, not on Zoom. Vouch has a flexible policy but Gary is clear: trust and culture build faster in a room together. Flexible does not mean fully remote, especially in the early days when the team is small and alignment matters most.
Customer feedback should be wired directly into product decisions. Vouch sends Vouches to its own customers to collect feedback, routes that feedback straight to a dedicated channel, and insists product teams dissect it. Stopping that feedback loop is easy and dangerous.

Mentioned in this episode

Frequently asked questions

What does Vouch actually do?

Vouch is a browser-based video collection platform. You create a set of questions, share a single link with respondents, and they record their answers remotely. The resulting videos can be edited and shared across your website, social channels, or integrated into tools like Slack, HubSpot, and Microsoft Teams. It is used for testimonials, employer branding, onboarding, and team communications.

Why did Gary Zurnamer leave Canva to start a company?

While scaling Canva’s enterprise function, Gary’s team struggled to collect video testimonials from customers at scale. Remote production was expensive and slow, and recording Zoom calls was not scalable. He concluded that if Canva was struggling with the problem, most businesses were too, and that his entire background in content and video had prepared him to solve it.

How did Vouch raise its $8 million seed round?

The round was co-led by Our Innovation Fund in Australia and Stage 2 Capital in the US. The fundraising process took roughly six months including travel to the US for in-person meetings. A key factor in choosing Stage 2 Capital was that their LP network aligned closely with Vouch’s target B2B market, making the investment a distribution opportunity as well as capital.

What is Vouch’s approach to product-led growth?

Seventy-five percent of Vouch’s team works in product, engineering, and design. The product is the primary sales channel: people sign up, use it, and ideally upgrade without needing to talk to a sales rep. Around 60 to 70 percent of customers never contact the Vouch team, which keeps acquisition costs low. Larger enterprise customers who need custom integrations or demos do get direct support.

How does Gary Zurnamer deal with imposter syndrome?

Gary’s approach is simple: just do the next thing. He does not try to reason his way through imposter syndrome or wait for it to pass. He treats it as background noise and keeps executing the next task. Steve Grace confirmed he still experiences it after 19 years in business, which Gary found reassuring rather than discouraging.

Topics discussed

startup foundervideo SaaSleaving Canvaproduct-led growthseed fundingUS investorsB2B marketingcustomer testimonialsimposter syndromeremote work culturecold emailangel investingvideo testimonialsAustralian startupsemployer branding

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00:00 Introduction and what Vouch does

Gary Zurnamer joins Steve Grace to introduce Vouch, a video collection platform that lets you send a link with multiple questions and receive beautifully edited video responses for testimonials, employer brand, recruiting, and team communications. Gary explains the asynchronous model and how Vouch enables businesses to unlock video at scale without the complexity of traditional production.

03:00 Why video has exploded since COVID

Steve and Gary discuss how COVID removed the inertia around recording yourself on camera. Everyone became a content creator. The quality of mobile devices dropped the cost barrier and the pandemic normalised video-first communication in ways that have outlasted lockdowns. Vouch launched its beta in March 2021 right into that tailwind.

06:00 Gary’s career: NRL, The Iconic, London, Stackla, Canva

Gary joined the NRL at 19 and built out their content function by instinctively moving toward short-form video. He then moved to The Iconic in the early warehouse days, spent five years in London on brand and agency work for large companies, joined Stackla to work on user-generated content, and eventually landed at Canva to scale their enterprise go-to-market.

10:00 The Canva problem that became Vouch

At Canva, Gary’s team needed to collect video testimonials from international enterprise customers. The options were all expensive or messy: remote production agencies, selfie recordings, Zoom captures. If Canva was struggling with this, Gary reasoned, the rest of the market had the same problem. He found co-founder Dave, who brought 25 years of technical experience and a vision for where the product could go well beyond testimonials.

13:00 First year: angel funding, beta launch, and CultureAmp

Vouch raised early angel funding from strategic people at Canva, Microsoft, and the former CPO of Calendly, whom Gary cold emailed four times before finally getting a reply. They launched a closed beta that included CultureAmp, who needed a way to collect speaker content for global events during the pandemic. That customer relationship has continued and CultureAmp has become a paying customer.

16:00 The $8 million seed round

Vouch raised $8 million Australian in a seed round co-led by Our Innovation Fund and Stage 2 Capital in the US. Gary explains the decision to raise at this stage and why being product-led made the business more fundable. The round is designed to accelerate the go-to-market, build out the team, and continue investing in the product.

25:00 Hardest things about being a first-time founder

Gary talks honestly about imposter syndrome, the grind of being a generalist when you need a specialist, and how personal it feels when something breaks for a customer. Steve confirms the imposter syndrome never goes away. Gary’s response is to treat it as background noise and just execute the next task.

28:00 Culture, return to office, and hiring for Vouch

Vouch has an office in Darlinghurst and a flexible policy. Gary is personally in favour of getting people together early in a company’s life because trust builds faster in person. He talks about the kind of employee Vouch looks for, the culture of authentic feedback they have built, and why junior staff challenging leadership decisions is something David and Gary actively celebrate.

About the host

Steve Grace is the founder and CEO of The Nudge Group, a technology-focused recruitment and advisory business. He has built and scaled companies across Australia and the US, and hosts Give It A Nudge to spotlight founders and operators building something meaningful.

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