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Kirsten Carriol, founder & CEO of Lanolips, talks about her story launching multiple businesses

Kirsten spoke about launching multiple businesses, being voted best lip balm in the world by The Times, Vogue UK & reddit, and focusing on using sustainable ingredients in her products.

by nudgegroup on August 7, 2021

About the guest

Kirsten Carriol

Founder and CEO at Lanolips

Kirsten Carriol is the founder and CEO of Lanolips, a skincare brand built on the power of lanolin, which she describes as nature’s most perfect moisturizer. She launched the brand in 2009 after a career in PR and marketing across beauty, skincare, and fashion, and has grown it to 25 products sold in 20 markets globally including the US, UK, and Europe. The Lanolips 101 Ointment has been voted best lip balm in the world by The Times, Vogue UK, and Reddit. Kirsten’s grandfather was a sheep farmer in South Australia, which is where her connection to lanolin began.

Episode overview

Kirsten Carriol joined Steve Grace on Give It A Nudge to share the 12-year story of Lanolips, from an airport departure lounge in Paris to a brand with 25 products in 20 global markets. The conversation covers the lanolin ingredient story, why blogs were the right channel before social media existed, how Kirsten caught Boots before everyone else did, why she waited until the stars aligned before entering the US, the packaging redesign mistake that taught her to trust her own instincts over panels, her approach to filtering self-doubt, and her advice for founders on protecting fragile early-stage ideas.

The lanolin origin story

In 2007, Kirsten was heading to the airport in Paris and dreading the dryness ahead for her lips. Despite having access to every luxury skincare brand through her PR career, nothing had worked. She remembered lanolin from her childhood in Adelaide, where her grandfather was a sheep farmer and his thick farmer’s hands were always soft from the lanolin that came off the wool during shearing. Her father, a scientist in genetics and DNA, had explained that the molecular structure of lanolin mimics human oils, making it uniquely compatible with skin in a way that plant-derived oils cannot replicate. The brand name came to her within 30 seconds.

“I remembered that when I was growing up I used to use lanolin because my grandparents were sheep farmers. My grandfather would shear the sheep and every night he would come home and his big thick farmer’s hands were all soft from the lanolin.”

Kirsten Carriol 3:00

Catching Boots and building the UK before the US

Kirsten launched in Australia with Priceline, David Jones, and Mecca, then saw early blogging culture emerging before social media had matured. She sent products to the three or four design blogs then operating in the UK and Australia. They loved the products and wrote about them. Boots caught word and reached out. Getting on Boots shelves 12 years ago, and staying there, remains one of her proudest milestones. The UK success gave her the confidence and the data to approach the US, which she waited for until the right distribution partner and enough brand awareness were in place.

“We suddenly had some platforms where we could have a voice that we didn’t know before. So we caught the eye of Boots in the UK, and then we developed a business in the UK, which is huge.”

Kirsten Carriol 12:00

The packaging mistake: panel decisions produce average outcomes

In years two or three of the brand, Kirsten ran a packaging redesign through a panel of experienced skincare and retail professionals she trusted. The result pleased everyone and was completely average. She hated it. The lesson: panel decisions always produce something in the middle, and middle is not where great brands live. Creative ideas are fragile in early stages and need to be protected from consensus before they are strong enough to survive it.

“Panel decisions end up always in the middle, which is always average. If you want something really amazing there has to be some kind of risk. Someone in the room has to not like it.”

Kirsten Carriol 25:00

Filtering self-doubt

Kirsten has a deliberate approach to managing the self-doubt that comes with building a consumer brand in the age of social media. She actively filters the information she receives, choosing not to see things that will produce doubt without producing useful action, while building resilience toward the things she does need to see. Over time this has given her a kind of selective immunity: she hears the things that matter and is not destabilised by the things that do not.

Key takeaways

Ingredient transparency was a competitive advantage before it became an expectation. Kirsten launched Lanolips at a moment when skincare brands were still thriving on opaque marketing and exaggerated claims. She positioned the brand on honest ingredient communication and product performance. Twelve years later that bet has compounded: Gen Z consumers go straight to reviews and reject anything that cannot prove what it claims.
Blogs were the right channel for indie brands before anyone else knew it. With three or four design and beauty blogs operating in the UK and Australia in the early 2010s, Kirsten sent products and let honest reviews do the work. The result was Boots. That instinct to read what was coming around the corner before it arrived is a consistent theme in how she has built the business.
Wait until the stars align before entering a market you cannot afford to lose. Kirsten watched other Australian brands enter the US and lose everything. She waited until she had the right distribution partner, enough existing brand awareness from blogs, and the financial confidence to support the launch properly. The US became the brand’s largest market as a result.
Panel decisions are the enemy of exceptional creative work. The packaging mistake is a vivid case study. Pleasing a room full of experienced people produces something everyone can live with and no one is excited about. Exceptional outcomes require someone to take a risk and someone in the room not to like it. That discomfort is the price of doing something memorable.
Protect fragile ideas before you share them. Kirsten reads broadly and has been influenced by how creative ideas are vulnerable in their early stages. Sharing a nascent concept too soon with the wrong people can kill it before it is strong enough to survive criticism. Give ideas time to develop before exposing them to evaluation.
Actively filter the information that reaches you. Kirsten’s approach to self-doubt is operational rather than motivational. She has built a filtering system that prevents her from seeing things that create doubt without producing useful information, while developing resilience toward the things she does need to engage with. This is a design choice, not a personality trait.
Gen Z will make inauthentic brands obsolete faster than any other force. Gen Z consumers have grown up with product reviews and vlogs. They go straight to reviews before buying anything and have a highly calibrated detector for authenticity. Kirsten argues this will accelerate the obsolescence of brands built on smoke, mirrors, and invented problems, and benefit the ones built on genuine performance.

Mentioned in this episode

Frequently asked questions

What is Lanolips and what makes it different?

Lanolips is a skincare brand built on lanolin as its hero ingredient, which Kirsten describes as nature’s most perfect moisturiser. Lanolin is a natural oil produced by sheep to keep their wool waterproofed, and its molecular structure mimics human oils in a way that plant-derived ingredients cannot replicate. The brand is built on ingredient transparency and genuine product performance, with its 101 Ointment voted best lip balm in the world by The Times, Vogue UK, and Reddit.

How did Kirsten Carriol start Lanolips?

Kirsten had the idea for Lanolips at an airport in Paris in 2007 when she realised nothing she had tried had solved her dry lips, and she remembered the lanolin from her grandparents’ sheep farm in South Australia. She had been working in PR and marketing in beauty and fashion for years, launched the brand in 2009 in Australia, and grew it internationally through a combination of early blog relationships, Boots UK, and eventually a US launch when the conditions were right.

Why is Lanolips sold in 20 countries?

Lanolips launched in Australia, grew its UK business via Boots, then entered the US when Kirsten was confident the brand had enough awareness and the right distribution partner to support the launch. The US became the brand’s largest market. Kirsten took a deliberate and staged approach to international expansion, waiting until the stars aligned rather than entering markets with insufficient preparation, which she had seen destroy other Australian brands.

What was Kirsten Carriol’s biggest business mistake?

Running a packaging redesign through a panel of experienced advisors. The result pleased everyone and was completely average. Kirsten hated it and learned that panel decisions always produce something in the middle. Exceptional creative work requires someone in the room to take a risk, and that risk means someone will not like it. She now trusts her own creative instincts rather than deferring to group consensus.

What books and podcasts does Kirsten Carriol recommend?

Kirsten recommends Seth Godin’s books for their approach to how brands spread and how marketing thinking should work, and Malcolm Gladwell’s books for their principles around early adoption and how ideas move through cultures. For podcasts she recommends Eyewitness Beauty for its ahead-of-the-curve perspective on the beauty industry, and How I Built This with Guy Raz for its approach to honest storytelling without hype.

Topics discussed

skincareconsumer brandfemale founderglobal marketsingredient transparencysustainabilitybrand buildingretailstartup lifeAustralia

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0:00 Introduction and the Lanolips story

Steve welcomes Kirsten and compliments her colour coordination. Kirsten begins with a short version of the Lanolips story: a 12-year skincare brand built on lanolin, the company’s hero ingredient. She describes the brand as covering the clean dry skin customer, having started in lip care and expanded to general skincare while maintaining lanolin as the central ingredient and sustainability differentiator.

3:00 The lanolin ingredient: sheep farms, science, and skin compatibility

Kirsten explains the lanolin origin story: Paris airport, dreading dry lips, remembering her grandfather’s sheep farm in South Australia, and her father’s genetics research confirming that lanolin’s molecular structure mimics human oils. She walks through how lanolin is produced by sheep, how it is refined, and why it is uniquely effective compared to plant oils. The brand name came to her in 30 seconds.

7:00 PR background and launching the brand in 2009

Kirsten describes seven or eight years in PR working across beauty, skincare, fashion, and events, and the point at which she recognised the industry’s dependence on smoke and mirrors. She wanted to build something that did the opposite: an indie brand that over-delivered on what it promised. She launched in 2009 with Australian retail partners.

12:00 Blogs, Boots, UK, and entering the US

Kirsten describes sending products to the three or four blogs then operating in the UK and Australia, receiving genuine positive coverage, catching the attention of Boots, and building a UK business that remains strong 12 years later. She explains her disciplined approach to the US entry: waiting for the right distribution partner, enough brand awareness, and the financial readiness to support the launch properly before committing.

20:00 Mistakes, panels, and protecting ideas early

Kirsten describes the packaging mistake in detail: assembling a panel of experienced advisors, getting consensus on a design that pleased everyone, and hating the result. The lesson is that exceptional creative work requires risk, and panels are designed to eliminate risk. She also discusses how creative ideas need time to develop before being shared with people who might dismiss them too early.

25:00 Self-doubt, Gen Z, and why join Lanolips

Kirsten describes her filtering approach to self-doubt and the distinction between information she needs to engage with and information she can safely exclude. She closes with her observations on Gen Z as the most authenticity-sensitive consumer generation yet, and why Lanolips’ ingredient transparency and genuine product performance position the brand well as that generation matures into its peak spending years.

About the host

Steve Grace is the founder and CEO of The Nudge Group, a technology-focused recruitment and advisory business. He has built and scaled companies across Australia and the US, and hosts Give It A Nudge to spotlight founders and operators building something meaningful.

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