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How PostLock is Changing the Homeownership Game

Stephen Zilioli, founder of PostLock, explains the government-backed savings product that neutralises property inflation for first home buyers in Australia and the UK.

by hao-nguyen on August 6, 2024

About the guest

Stephen Zilioli

Founder and CEO of PostLock

Stephen Zilioli is the founder and CEO of PostLock, a fintech startup building a government-backed savings product for aspiring home buyers. Born in the US with an Australian mother, he moved to Australia in 1998 after a career in investment and commercial banking in the United States. Over 25 years in Australian financial services, he identified a structural flaw in all standard savings products: they earn a fixed return while property prices grow at a multiple of that rate, creating a moving target that disciplined savers can never reach.

Episode overview

Steve Grace sits down with Stephen Zilioli, founder of PostLock, to work through one of the most fundamental problems in housing policy: the savings gap. Most products tell a first home buyer to save 20% of a target price without acknowledging that the target is moving faster than any savings rate. PostLock is built around closing that gap through a government partnership that links the saver’s return to actual property price growth in their chosen suburb.

The problem with every existing savings product

Standard savings accounts give savers a fixed return, currently around the RBA cash rate. Property prices in Australia have historically grown at 7 to 10 percent per year in major markets. The brutal reality is that every standard savings calculator showing a saver their “target” is lying by omission: the target is not static. It grows every year. A saver putting money away at 4.35 percent while their target suburb grows at 8 percent is falling behind every single year regardless of how disciplined they are.

Stephen identifies this as the core problem PostLock solves. Not the deposit size itself, but the fact that the goalpost moves faster than the savers can run. PostLock neutralises that dynamic by giving savers a return that matches the growth of their target suburb.

“PostLock is designed to ensure that when people do that, if people make that choice to save, they’ll get the reward. That money is invested rather than just saved.”

Stephen Zilioli 08:23

How PostLock works in practice

A saver selects a suburb they aspire to buy in. They open a PostLock account and their money goes to government, not to PostLock. They earn the RBA cash rate as a base return immediately. If they ultimately purchase a home in their selected suburb, they receive an additional return equal to the local property price growth over their savings period, capped at 10 percent total to protect taxpayers.

The product is not a locked-in instrument. Stephen is clear that people’s lives change and the product needs flexibility. If you move, change suburbs, change cities, or never buy, you can access your money at the base rate. The premium return is tied to the purchase outcome, not the savings journey itself. The data PostLock holds, where you live, where you saved, and where you bought, is what allows the model to function while managing the risk of people gaming the system by saving in high-growth suburbs they never intend to buy in.

“The biggest challenge for most when most people save for home is that you’re chasing a market that’s going up seven, eight, nine, ten percent per year and there’s nothing they can do about it.”

Stephen Zilioli 00:33

Why the UK and why government as the counterparty

Stephen’s background in Australian banking included an early conversation with a Mercer Consulting contact who explained clearly that banks would never do this product. They carry quarterly mark-to-market pressures and do not want long-term exposure to property price indices. Government, by contrast, is perfectly aligned: it wants homeownership rates to rise, it has no profit motive to extract fees, and it is the safest possible counterparty for consumer savings.

PostLock pursued government engagement in both Australia and the UK. The UK proved more receptive at an earlier stage. Progress in the UK has given PostLock a real-world proof point and reference case for Australian government conversations, which Stephen characterises as moving slowly but steadily in a positive direction.

Six years of incubation and the leap to full-time

Stephen spent two to three years developing the concept as a side project, during which he was having substantial conversations with banks and politicians while his LinkedIn profile still listed a different employer. That gap between where his energy was and what his business card said created a friction he describes vividly. Going full-time was simultaneously terrifying and liberating: the conversations could finally match the commitment, and the outcome, whether success or failure, would be fully his to own.

Key takeaways

The deposit target is not static, and every standard savings product pretends it is.This is the core problem PostLock identified: savings products calculate how long it will take to reach 20% of today’s price without accounting for the fact that the price will be higher every year. PostLock is the only product that neutralises that moving target.
Government is the only counterparty aligned with the saver’s goal.Banks have quarterly profit pressures. Governments want homeownership rates to rise and do not need to extract a fee. PostLock’s entire model depends on this alignment, and a Mercer Consulting expert pointed it out before Stephen had fully articulated it himself.
Moving the market requires government engagement, not just product innovation.Building a product that works is the easy part. The hard part is the multi-year process of navigating government policy conversations in two countries simultaneously. Stephen describes this as one of the most complex aspects of the business but also the most durable moat once achieved.
Suburbs as savings vehicles is a new category of financial product.PostLock is not a term deposit and not a property investment vehicle. It is a new category: a location-linked savings product. Educating savers, governments, and advisors about a new category takes time and requires a compelling simple story.
The side hustle credibility problem is real.When your passion project is not on your business card, every serious conversation involves a credibility gap. Going full-time signals commitment and removes the doubt that counterparties have about whether you are really serious.
Flexibility must be designed in from day one for government-linked products.Life changes. The product must accommodate suburb transfers, city moves, and life plan changes without punishing savers. PostLock’s three-data-point model (where you live, where you saved, where you bought) is what makes managed flexibility possible.

Mentioned in this episode

Frequently asked questions

What is PostLock and how does it work?

PostLock is a savings product for aspiring home buyers where money is held by government and earns a return linked to the property price growth of the suburb the saver intends to buy in. The saver earns the RBA cash rate as a base return regardless of outcome, plus the local property growth premium if they ultimately purchase in their selected suburb. The total return is capped at 10% to protect taxpayers.

Why does PostLock use government rather than a bank?

Banks have quarterly mark-to-market pressures and profit motives that make them unsuitable counterparties for long-term property-linked savings products. Governments want homeownership rates to rise and are fully aligned with the saver’s goal. They are also the safest possible counterparty: your money is backed by government rather than sitting with a fintech startup or a bank seeking to monetise it.

Can you get your money out of PostLock if you change your mind?

Yes. PostLock is designed with flexibility. If you change your target suburb, move cities, or decide not to buy, you can withdraw your savings at the base rate. The property-linked premium is only paid if you ultimately purchase a home. The product also allows suburb transfers when life circumstances genuinely change.

Why is PostLock active in the UK?

PostLock found the UK government more receptive to the product concept at an earlier stage than Australia. The housing affordability crisis in the UK is acute and the government has been more open to innovative home savings structures. Progress in the UK provides a proof point and reference case for ongoing Australian government conversations.

How long has Stephen Zilioli been building PostLock?

Stephen had the idea six years before this episode was recorded, spending two to three years developing it as a side project before going full-time. He was having substantial conversations with banks, politicians, and civil servants while still employed elsewhere, which he describes as the hardest aspect of the incubation phase from a credibility standpoint.

Topics discussed

PropertyFirst Home BuyersFintechHousing AffordabilityGovernment PartnershipsSavingsFounder StoryPropTech

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00:33 The pitch and the problem

PostLock is a better way to save for home deposits. The challenge for most people when they save for a home is they put their money in the bank and maybe get one or two percent return, but they are chasing a market that is going up seven, eight, nine, ten percent per year and there is nothing they can do about it. So for most buyers they are faced with a really awkward decision: save more, invest in risky assets, or give up. PostLock is designed to solve that by enabling them to invest their money safely and get a return based on where they want to buy, neutralising housing inflation.

08:23 How the product works

Most people when they start saving for a home have a sense of where they like to live, what suburb they want to put down roots in. Standard savings products calculate your target as a static number and do not tell the saver that the target is a moving one. PostLock solves that. The aspiring saver selects a suburb, logs on to the PostLock website, and then invests their money. The money is securely with government. It does not sit with us. Government then gives them a return based on where they want to live. In Australia the RBA cash rate is currently 4.35 percent. If property in their suburb goes up 8 percent, they earn 4.35 plus 3.65 to give them that total return, but only if they buy in that suburb. If they do not buy there, they access their savings at the base rate.

12:29 Flexibility and exceptions

Life changes. The product cannot be Draconian. People move jobs, get new partners, change cities. Our model holds three data points: where you live, where you saved, and where you bought. If there is a clear story and logic to a change, a person should be able to transfer their suburb exposure and benefit from the return on the way through. We are designing for flexibility because a product that penalises genuine life change will not scale. The exception management has to be built in from day one.

15:36 Why government is the counterparty and what has happened in the UK

A contact at Mercer Consulting was the first person who clearly articulated why the banks will never do this. They have quarterly mark-to-market. They are not going to want that exposure. But government is the perfect counterparty because government wants to get people into homes and they are not trying to extract a fee on the way through. We have truly aligned partners. The UK has been more receptive than Australia in the early engagement phase. We have made significant progress there and that gives us a proof point to bring back to Australian conversations which are moving in a positive direction.

23:10 Capital raising and the long game

The ideal investor for PostLock is someone who understands that this is a long game. Navigating government is not a sprint. It takes years of consistent engagement to shift policy. The regulatory and counterparty complexity is also our moat once we get there. We are looking for patient capital that understands the housing affordability crisis is not going away and that a government-backed structural solution is what the market actually needs, not another app telling people to cut their avocado toast.

About the host

Steve Grace is the CEO and co-founder of The Nudge Group, a talent and advisory firm working with Australia’s fastest-growing tech and professional services companies. He has spent two decades recruiting and advising executive teams. Give It A Nudge is where he shares unfiltered conversations with founders, operators, and investors building something worth talking about.

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